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Subject: Nimble Crosswind vs Stratus DV
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ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
10/28/2005 9:23:49 AM
Hi all...
I'm looking to buy a race-only wheelset, which will be used for time trials and road races. I really like the Nimble Crosswind as well as the Reynolds Stratus DV. Any opinion on which wheel would better suit my needs - thanks in advance for any input..
Oh, I'm in Northern CA and the road races up here, at least the ones I race, are primarily rolling hills.
Grant Sample
Posts:30
Posted:
10/28/2005 11:15:37 AM
If you are wanting to get a wheelset that you can use for both TT's and road races then a tri-spoke carbon wheel would probably not be the best option. A spoked wheel will be much better for road racing and you're really not giving up too much aero advantage by using the same wheel for TT's. my two cents, go with the Reynolds.
ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
10/28/2005 2:36:00 PM
Thanks for your opinion, which I tend to agree with.
Gary Tingley
Posts:0
Posted:
10/28/2005 9:39:46 PM
I agree, the Reynolds are the way to go // or go Zipp
ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
10/31/2005 8:04:54 AM
Thanks Gary.. Yeah, I've been eyeing the Zipp 404's as well, which also leads me to the Easton Tempest II Carbon.
Grant Sample
Posts:30
Posted:
10/31/2005 11:42:36 AM
I can personally attest to the the quality of the Easton's. I have a set. Actually they are the Velomax Tempest II's. I bought them just before Velomax was sold to Easton. Good wheels.
ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
11/4/2005 11:00:33 PM
Hey Gary & Grant - thanks for the info. If you were buying tomorrow, would you go with the Easton Tempest II Carbon, the Zipp 404 or the Reynolds Stratus DV?? Again, these are all around race wheels that'll be used in a few stage races per year that include TT's.
Thanks again for your input guys...
Gary Tingley
Posts:0
Posted:
11/4/2005 11:46:25 PM
I would go Zipp, I have a set of 999's, they rock
1. Zipp
2. Reynolds
3. Easton
Either way, all these wheels are fast as hell.
Grant Sample
Posts:30
Posted:
11/8/2005 12:34:53 AM
You know, wheels like the ones we are talking about here are really just as good as each other. I have a set of the Easton's I also own a Zipp 999. I've heard nothing but good things about the Reynolds so if it were up to me at this poing I'd go with whatever looks the best. You really can't lose with any of these wheels.
Keep us posted on what you end up going with.
ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
11/8/2005 9:43:56 PM
Thanks for the info guys - will definitely keep you posted. It's pretty hard as, like you said, all the discussed wheels are good. I do like the reynolds as well and they're a little cheaper, but they don't have the dimples like the Zipp's. I'm waiting to see what type of discount I can get through a new LBS sponsor, which should be finalized this week.
ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
11/29/2005 9:07:43 PM
Well, I've decided on the wheelset. I'm going with the Mavic Cosmic Carbone Pro tubulars - order goes in next week. They're a little more expensive than the discussed wheels, but I haven't heard a lot of good things about some of the other manufacturers relating to warranty work, etc. Mavic has a reputation of building a great product, which happen to be bomb-proof for the most part, so I'll see how they work.
1st TT is the Pinole team TT in February, cannot wait. Will have to go climb Mt. Diablo and see if a lighter wheelset has much effect compared to my 1,800 gram wheelset with the Powertap - I imagine the differnce will be very noticable.
Take it easy guys....
Gary Tingley
Posts:0
Posted:
11/29/2005 9:38:40 PM
Just be sure to select the right tires, pressure, and glue. Certain tires and glue combinations have relatively high rolling resistance when compared to premium clincher tires, and in some cases, the improper selection of glue/tire/pressure can result in significant power losses. The new pressure I run is shocking compared to what some of my competitors run. I did not believe it myself until I came to see the data/tests and understand the pressure misconceptions as applied to tubular tires.
I am using a new combination for next season, after I learned that my ('05 setup) tubulars/glue probably require me to produce an additional 15 watts to overcome the rolling resistance when compared to the '06 setup I will be using. Best of luck.
http://www.analyticcycling.com/ForcesTire_TireRollingResistance.html
ChrisLaTraille
Posts:14
Posted:
11/30/2005 8:19:20 AM
Hey Gary - would you mind expanding on this a little or maybe sharing your setup.
Gary Tingley
Posts:0
Posted:
11/30/2005 8:28:55 AM
Clinchers have lower Crr than tubulars, with exception to one or two special tubulars and glue that negate the disadvantage. Your course dictates the best tire for you.
German Magazine "Tour" rolling resistance results
Tire Crr
Deda Tre Giro d'Italia 0.0038
Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX 0.0039
Michelin Pro 2 Race 0.0042
Vittoria Diamante Pro Rain 0.0044
Michelin Megamium 2 0.0047
Pariba Revolution 0.0048
Veloflex Carbon (Tubular) 0.0049
Michelin Carbon 0.0050
Gommitalia Route du Nord (Tubular) 0.0050
Panaracer Stradius Pro 0.0051
Schwalbe Stelvio Plus 0.0052
Gommitalia Platinum (Tubular) 0.0053
Vittoria Corsa Evo CX (Tubular) 0.0054
Schwalbe Stelvio Evolution Front 0.0056
Continental GP Force (rear specific) 0.0057
Hutchinson Fusion 0.0057
Schwalbe Stelvio Evolution Rear 0.0057
Vittoria Corsa Evo KS (Tubular) 0.0057
Continental Ultra GatorSkin 0.0058
Ritchey Pro Race Slick WCS 0.0058
Schwalbe Stelvio 0.0059
Continental Competition (Tubular) 0.0059
Veloflex Roubaix (Tubular) 0.0059
Continental Podium (Tubular) 0.0060
Specialized S-Works Mondo 0.0061
Continental GP 3000 0.0067
Hutchinson Top Speed 0.0069
Schwalbe Stelvio (Tubular) 0.0069
Continental GP Attack (front specific) 0.0073
Tufo Elite Jet (Tubular) 0.0073
Schwalbe Montello 300 (Tubular) 0.0075
Tufo Hi-Composite Carbon (Tubular) 0.0077
Average Clincher: 0.0054
Average Tubular: 0.0061
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